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~ Eliminating the evil real player ~

Published in November 2002 (Version 0.07: October 2003)

Eliminating the evil real player
by Kane

small update by Kane

Stiletto's observations Fravia's observations 1 Fravia's observations 2
Windows Media Player is evil: the "Supercookie"

(Awaiting more input /feedback / suggestions / critics :-)

'twas about time. I will repeat it: it was about time that some reverser would 'solve' the problems caused by the spyware known as Real player. Here is the solution. Read and enjoy (and please consider that this is still in fieri)

Beginning (all great snowballs begin small)

Real Player/Real One (07/11/02 14:59:28)

I've recently started having to use a lot of .RM files, which brings along that nasty virus called RealPlayer or even nastier RealOne, other than being insanely bloated and degrading your privacy, I just plain don't like not being able to play files in any media player I damn well please :)

So I went looking for solutions to my virus problem, I found two which work well.

Firstly
tinra
http://evc.to/tinra/ (official site, down at the moment)
http://www.geocities.com/tinra04/ (so we'll use a mirror)

tinra converts .RM into raw .AVI so you can compress it into any format you choose. Well thats a partial solution but too time consuming for my needs, you also still have to have real player installed to convert, and thats without mentioning tinra's other limitations.

Secondly
Media Player Classic
http://vobsub.edensrising.com/mpc.php

Can kill two birds with one stone with this one, get rid of windows media player (reasons why here http://www.petri.co.il/wmp_spyware.htm) and also get rid of the need to run real player (although yet again it still has to be installed).

First bootup of a .RM file in MPC and there it goes, playing flawlessly, other than a few problems with tracking it works on all the .RMs i tried it on. Ok so now we have a partial solution, after turning off all the blatantly spying options in real player, adding it to kerio personal firewalls not allowed to connect out filter and killing that annoying systray startup agent, we have a nice functional way to play .RMs without using realplayer. That might be fine for some people but i'm picky :)

Maybe, just maybe,we don't need ALL of real player, maybe its a codec hiding someplace in that mess called c:\. So I break out our old friends filemon and regmon, set a filter on MPC and watch what it opens when its playing a .RM, i'll spare you the long output.

Bingo, there we go, it doesn't touch the real.exe, just some registry entries and a few DLLs. After a bit of trial and error, heres the list i've got that works without having any *.exe from realplayer installed.

DLL list
realDLLlist.txt

Registry Entrys
Real.reg

Now with a simple .bat file you could have it install all the needed files easily. Something like this

----------------------- cut here --------------
@echo off

xcopy /EYH nameoffolderwithdlls "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Real\"
copy /Y pncrt.dll %WINDIR%\System32\
regedit -s Real.reg
----------------------- cut here --------------

This was all done on a windows 2000 machine, I have no other windows OS available to test it on, so it might not work on 9x/XP etc.

kane [AT] darkflux [DOT] org

Further observations

(snowball is getting bigger, and quicker :-)

Ok, now let's have a look... for win 98:
You already have realplayer installed, so just delete the whole real subdirectory with all the bin files in c:/program files, screw real once for all!
Just keep the whole bangazz with all subdirectories in C:\Program Files\Common Files\Real\, but make sure you delete the Update directory! That's it! Bie bie Real player, hope you wont feel too lonely down the drain, you commercial vermine, in fact you'll be in good company!

Gabest's creation, Media Player Classic, could -I fear- disappear from the web, so here you have the relevant copies:
../zipped/mpc2kxp6465.zip (896001 bytes, for win 2000 and XP)
../zipped/mpc98me6405.rar (366318, for win 98).
You should by all means thank Gabest for this http://vobsub.edensrising.com/mpc.php, or, more directly, http://order.kagi.com/cgi-bin/r1.cgi?N4A&&

Small update

(automating the elimination)

Step 1
unreal.zip Real reg + unreal.bat

@echo off

rmdir /S /Q "C:\Program Files\Real"
rmdir /S /Q "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Real\Visualizations"
rmdir /S /Q "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Real\Update_OB"
del /S /Q   "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Real\Common\*DB*"
xcopy /EYH  "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Real" "C:\Program Files\Common Files\unreal\"
rmdir /S /Q "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Real"
regedit -s Real.reg

Unzip both files to the same dir and run unreal.bat
(i shouldn't have to tell you the dangers of running batch files when you don't know what they do, so open it in a text editor first so YOU know what its doing)
it will automatically remove all the crap from a default realone install, and move them to its own dir named unreal. realsched.exe might not delete if realone has ran at some point since your last reboot, if not, reboot after running the batch file and then remove it manually.

Step 2
unreal_clean.zip
unreal_clean.zip
Real.reg + unreal_clean.bat

unreal_clean.bat:

@echo off

xcopy /EYH DLLs "C:\Program Files\Common Files\unreal\"
copy /Y pncrt.dll %WINDIR%\System32\
regedit -s Real.reg

This is to be used after a clean install of windows, but firstly you'll have to have done step 1. Now make a directory on your hard drive, something like
"C:\unreal\"
and copy all the directorys out of
"C:\Program Files\Common Files\unreal\"
into
"C:\unreal\DLLs\"
next, copy
"C:\WINNT\system32\pncrt.dll"
into
"C:\unreal\"
and finally, unzip the 2 files in unreal_clean.zip into
"C:\unreal"

backup "C:\unreal" somewhere safe, and next time you install windows just run the install.bat. Thats the end of having to install realone ever again (or at least till theevil ones get wise to this) :)

Yet again this was all on a win2k box, its up to others to put this technique onto the other winOS.

And with that i'm off to do a reinstall of win2k :)
I really should ghost/image the hdd so i don't have to reinstall so much

Stiletto's observations

(snowball is getting even bigger, and even quicker :-)

Comments (08/11/02 20:34:59)

small update

Stiletto

Fravia's observations (1)

I (fravia+) do not agree: these things start rolling --if they ever do-- through sudden movements, like snow-avalanches :-) Therefore there is no need to fear that an 'incomplete' (coz it will always be "incomplete") solution will do any damage, on the contrary (imho) it will help us.
So we must get onwards with what we have... alas! we do not have yet "a lot more research needs... into alternative players". Wish we had. If anybody has it (does it), please send it over...

"make a .MSI installation file", says Stiletto... of course. But in the mean time our (read Kane's) silly simple hack works wonders... why should'nt we use / spread it? And I'm sure that readers that found their way to this page will be able to finetune a dos batch file.

"it left bits and pieces all through the registry and likely the operating system" It does not wonder me in the least... so what? As long as these bits and pieces are DEAD BEEF, I could not care less. Let's invest our precious time in destroying our enemies' mischiefs, not exclusively on 'purity' tasks. This said, if anyone does develop a 'neater' solution, by all means, send it over! But I would not (personally, and I may be wrong) give to 'cleaning' a bigger priority than to 'solving'...

What I mean is that we have all been annoyed by real player for a long time, and simply by 1. deleting it, 2. keeping its codecs, 3. cleaning as much as we can its "left behind mess" and 4. using Gabest's Media Player Classic instead of Real, we move a long way, imo, towards a real player free world :-)

And no, thanks, their helix source code offers still sound bogus to me, coming from people that practicized large-scale spywaring, yet, by Jupiter! If they really go open source we'll re-start using their products, maybe.

Fravia's observations (2)

Better be careful when experimenting with this stuff. Like putting your hands in a hornet nest.
My first impression is that the very moment you install the new huge RealOnePlayerV2GOLD.exe (that most sites will link you to as soon as you try to download any real player's version), it will screw -once uninstalled- your windozian register (and box) so that you will not be allowed any more to install a previous version of it. At least I began getting C++ error messages and system crashes, after having deinstalled it (thoroughly, I thought), on a win98 box, when trying to install Real 8.1 (not realone).
I noticed that when installing realone plays inter alia with following files:

     
C:\WINDOWS\HISTORY\DESKTOP.INI (quite interesting per se :-)
C:\PROGRAM FILES\DESKTOP.INI (have a look :-)
C:\WINDOWS\TEMPORARY INTERNET FILES\CONTENT.IE5\INDEX.DAT 
C:\WINDOWS\HISTORY\HISTORY.IE5\INDEX.DAT 
C:\WINDOWS\COOKIES\INDEX.DAT 
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\STDOLE2.TLB
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\MSHTML.TLB  
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\WININET.DLL
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\OLE32.DLL 
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\MSVCRT.DLL
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\JSCRIPT.DLL
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\SHDOCVW.DLL             
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\SHFOLDER.DLL
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\SHLWAPI.DLL		
C:\WINDOWS\COOKIES\INDEX.DAT

My impression is that if you do happen to have installed recent versions of Real Player (8.1 or realone) then you better

uninstall through its uninstaller,
check per hand that everything disappeared (it will have not), deleting what's still there if needs be
check with Jouni Vuorio's regcleaner that all entries have really disappeared, uninstalling what's still there if needs be
reinstall an older version for instance, [realplayer8basicSetup.exe 5026304 bytes, Real Player 8 basic (win 32) Build 6.0.9.584] This was a version you could still (try to) control when phoning home... give up any such hope with the more recent ones :-(
check that everything ("modern" rm files) works with realplayer 8 basic
check that everything ("modern" rm files) works with Gabest's Media Player Classic
uninstall real player (keeping the codecs & co, see essays above)
If you want to be "quick and dirty" ('ts not very professional, zugegeben, but it works for simpletons and, hey Stiletto! it screws real player enough :-)
You just delete EVERYTHING in
C:\Program Files\real
You just keep the existing subdirectories codecs, plugins and commons inside
C:\Program Files\Common Files\REAL
cross your fingers, restart and enjoy :-)

Ha! Science! What would not we do for thee!
:-)

Windows Media Player is evil: the "Supercookie"

Maybe you did not know it, but every time it installs, this Microsoft's malware assign a unique ID number in the form of a GUID to the player. This ID number is stored in the Windows registry. The ActiveX interface to the Windows Media Player allows any JavaScript Program to retrieve the ID number using the property "ClientID".
Here is your own one (Opera wont show it: you will need a stupid insecure browser to see it, with the "WMP plugin" installed. Remember, however that zombies -mostly- browse happily around with their MSIE :-)

click here
Of course, once a JavaScript program fetches the ID number, this info can be gathered appending it to the URL of a Webbug or it can be stored in a normal cookie. Either case you have been tagged, courtesy of Microsoft.
In the most recent version of the wmp, Microsoft graciously allows users to uncheck the new WMP option "Allow Internet sites to uniquely identify your player"... if users manage to find it. Note that in the previous versions there was/is NO WAY to avoid this malware tracking.

          ~ Bibliography ~ Links ~

Real Time Streaming Protocol: 
http://www.rtsp.org/ 
 
Maillists:
BugTraq and NTBugTraq mailing lists

Other interesting places:  
http://www.xmms.org/ 
http://www.computerbytesman.com/index.htm
http://forum.xmms.org/
http://www.xiph.org/ogg/vorbis/
http://www.icecast.org/about.html
http://www.angrycoffee.com/tutorials/mp3/index.html#toolbox